Imperial Guard : Vehicles OVERKILL???

I think that the IG vehicles are overkill. It's true, they are stupidly powerful and the Baneblade would own practically any vehicle I know (that isn't apocalypse) and I find it very irritating... Does anybody agree with me?


Ta muchly

Rune

The above post is seriously pointless.

This topic should be in debating.

Skirax wrote:The above post is seriously pointless.

Mine, or his?

the fishassassin wrote:

Skirax wrote:The above post is seriously pointless.

Mine, or his?

Whose has been deleted?

mine

...*facepalm*

Then which post was inappropriate? My god....

All these posts are innapropriate. OT please.


IG vehicles are actually some of the more mediocre tanks, costing a hefty points sum for somthing a little better than a preadtor. The predator for example, can be given tri-las and EA for about 180 pts, while a Vanquisher to have the same effectiveness, needs to have a HK rocket, Lascannon and Pask. And, even then, it doesn't seem to work as well

on the other hand, where the guard excels with tanks, olly, they are frankly terrible when it comes to infantry. Imperial guard squads as we all know are useful cannon fodder and will rarely excel by themselves in combat. This is why the guard rely fairly heavily on having good tanks, and a lot of them. And guard tanks aren't as durable or as destructive as it might seem, as ben pointed out. I'd rather pay the decent cost for a pair of predators than leman russes

Black Jericho wrote:on the other hand, where the guard excels with tanks, olly, they are frankly terrible when it comes to infantry. Imperial guard squads as we all know are useful cannon fodder and will rarely excel by themselves in combat. This is why the guard rely fairly heavily on having good tanks, and a lot of them. And guard tanks aren't as durable or as destructive as it might seem, as ben pointed out. I'd rather pay the decent cost for a pair of predators than leman russes

To quote yourself, 'Wrong'.

IG are mostly seen as cannon fodder yes, but that's not true - a unit of Conscripts managed to take out three Terminators - and there was only 25 of them! Considering how they're less effective than a unit of Orks, that's surprisingly brilliant.

And once, my command squad with straken and a couple of others. ripped apart Jakes grey hunter squad without taking a single casulty. Then did brilliantly when charged by his BCs.

I'd preffer Russes to predators, Russes get pie plates.
Plus armour 14 isn't to be sniffed at.

I think Jeicho you haven't been against a real Guard gunline yet, a few orders and the massed firepower that's thrown out can rip through pretty much anything. Put them in cover and you'll have a seriously hard time flushing them out.

Oh and Ben's Vanq is a converted Abrams. Nuff said.

firenze wrote:And once, my command squad with straken and a couple of others. ripped apart Jakes grey hunter squad without taking a single casulty. Then did brilliantly when charged by his BCs.

Um... The Grey Hunters held out for three turns, and the Blood Claws only took three casualties in the first turn of combat.

Next turn of Combat... Goodbye Straken

Tom is so right; An IG gunline can slow even the hardest of hitting forces. Even my Blitzkrieg tactic would have trouble breaking it. And let's not forget: a R: 24 S: 6 AP: 4 gun for 5 points per Guard squad is so useful.